The Physio Matters Podcast

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Session 4 – Know Pain: Metaphoric Expression with Mike Stewart – Part 1

Session 4 features part one of an interview with Mike Stewart, a clinical specialist working in persistant pain, discussing the use of metaphoric expression within a framework of biopsychosocial clinical reasoning.

Podcast timeline 

  • 0:00-1:30

Podcast intro.

  • 1:20 – 5:35

Mike Stewart intro and story so far.

  • 5:35 – 9:10

Pros and cons of the biomedical and biopsychosocial models.

  • 9:10 – 11:45

The journey towards biopsychosocialism.

  • 11:45 – 16:10

Categorical thinking. Innate but often unhelpful?

Training perspective.

  • 16:10 – 18:45

Catastrophising and evolution.

Adaptation or maladaptation.

  • 18:45 – 21:00

The reframing of pain as a condition in its own right.

Teaching pain management like other long term conditions.

  • 21:00 – 24:05

How is biomedicalism failing society?

The use of MRI reporting and explanation.

  • 24:05 – 29:05

How do with simplify pain as an entity for patients?

Patient education and the sensitivity model.

  • 29:05 – 31:10

Using physical metaphor and illusion in patient education.

How the nervous system can be deceptive.

  • 31:10 – 33:50

Pain as an output.

The learning and unlearning process of neurological outputs.

  • 33:50 – 40:35

Thoughts and emotion as impulses too.

Cognitive, emotional and contextual triggers.

Context is unique. How does it influence pain?

  • 40:35 – 45:30

Pain as a threat.

History of pain science and its growing evidence.

The use of multiple ingredients in rehab.

  • 45:30 – 52:40

Metaphoric expression. The good, bad and ugly.

From the battle to the journey.

Helping patient’s to reframe progress.

  • 52:40 – 56:15

Goal setting.

Functional rehabilitation goals within patient context.


  • 56:15 – 56:40

The complexities of the nervous system.

Does this mean complex analogies and explanations?

  • 56:40 – 58:15


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Twitter: @TPMPodcast @chews_health @knowpainmike


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